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Transaction Log Size is very large

Jun 21 2011 12:00AM by Doug   

Hi Jacob,

Our Transaction Log Size (.ldf) has grown very large over the pass week.
We use: - 'SIMPLE' Recovery Model - 'FULL' backup type

Doesn't the 'SIMPLE' Recovery Model manage the .ldf? I'm not sure what to do at this point. This is something I am getting up to speed on. Thanks for your help!!

Results from DBCC OPENTRAN Transaction information for database 'ECOMLIVE'.

Replicated Transaction Information: Oldest distributed LSN : (1118599:21522:4) Oldest non-distributed LSN : (1118599:21552:1) DBCC execution completed. If DBCC printed error messages, contact your system administrator.

Submitted under: Microsoft SQL Server · Transaction Log ·  ·  · 


Doug
84 · 2% · 647

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  • Doug:

    Log truncation happens automatically in simple recovery model which keeps log from filling. The truncation process reduces the size of the logical log file by marking as inactive the virtual log files that do not hold any part of the logical log. Backup the transaction log file regularly to delete the inactive transactions in the transaction log. One of the reasons to grow log file so huge in the simple recovery model is that a single transaction that lasted for so long that it forced the transaction log to grow so huge. There could be another scenario where you have large amount of data updated in a single data transaction which lead the transaction log to grow large.

    Do you have replication set up on this database? From the error message, it looks like you have set it up.

    Also, I would recommend setting the database in full recovery model and do the transaction log backup every 15 minutes and see if that help. You might want to shrink the log file for now (though it is not highly recommended) to keep going and then do the log backup regularly. Transaction log also grows when you have index and statistics maintenance plan.

    commented on Jun 21 2011 9:31AM
    Abi Chapagai
    69 · 3% · 808
  • Also look at the auto growth setting for the transaction log file and see what is the max size allocated for the transaction log.

    commented on Jun 21 2011 9:46AM
    Abi Chapagai
    69 · 3% · 808
  • When you say "Backup the transaction log file regularly to delete the inactive transactions in the transaction log." are you meaning for us to do that in "simple recovery model "? If so, those radio buttons are inactive so we are not allowed to backup the .ldf in that model. Until we can change to "Full recovery model" what can we do at this point to shrink the .ldf?

    commented on Jun 21 2011 9:47AM
    Doug
    84 · 2% · 647
  • We cannot do the log backup in the simple recovery model. You have to change the recovery model from simple to full to do the log backup. You can shrink the log file. Are there any open/active transactions now?

    commented on Jun 21 2011 9:59AM
    Abi Chapagai
    69 · 3% · 808
  • Initial Size (MB) - 108819 Autogrowth - 10% unrestricted growth

    commented on Jun 21 2011 10:05AM
    Doug
    84 · 2% · 647
  • Can I find the open transactions in - dmtransession_transactions

    If so, there are 21 rows in that table.

    commented on Jun 21 2011 10:29AM
    Doug
    84 · 2% · 647
  • Use DBCC OPENTRAN command to determine whether an open transaction exists.

    DBCC OPENTRAN returns the following result set when there are no open transactions in the transaction log:

    No active open transactions. DBCC execution completed. If DBCC printed error messages, contact your system administrator.

    If there is no open/active transactions, you can shrink the log file.

    commented on Jun 21 2011 10:38AM
    Abi Chapagai
    69 · 3% · 808
  • Here are the results, so does indicate there are open transactions

    Transaction information for database 'ECOMLIVE'.

    Replicated Transaction Information: Oldest distributed LSN : (1118920:226253:4) Oldest non-distributed LSN : (1118920:226307:1) DBCC execution completed. If DBCC printed error messages, contact your system administrator.

    commented on Jun 21 2011 10:44AM
    Doug
    84 · 2% · 647
  • Is it OK to change models while production is up and running?

    commented on Jun 21 2011 10:47AM
    Doug
    84 · 2% · 647
  • Is this database used for replication? This message says that the database was or is marked for replication.

    Thanks

    commented on Jun 21 2011 11:40AM
    Abi Chapagai
    69 · 3% · 808
  • Yes - and I checked with our web host developer and below is his response.

    That is your transaction log for the live DB, replication shouldn’t be involved.
    When was the last time you had a successful full backup? If the log file didn’t shrink automatically, you can shrink it manually.

    commented on Jun 21 2011 11:48AM
    Doug
    84 · 2% · 647
  • Well, if there is a replication going on, you have to check if the replication is working properly.

    commented on Jun 21 2011 12:22PM
    Abi Chapagai
    69 · 3% · 808
  • Replication is working properly - we confirmed

    For now we just need to shink the log file Do you see any reason not to do the following during business hours?

    USE [ECOMLIVE]
    GO
    DBCC SHRINKFILE (N'ECOMGEN_log' , 0, TRUNCATEONLY)
    GO
    
    commented on Jun 21 2011 12:33PM
    Doug
    84 · 2% · 647
  • I think your replication is unable to cope up with what is going on in the log file.Had everything been fine the o/p for Oldest non distributed LSN should had been (0:0:0).I strongly believe a long never ending transaction to be real culprit.

    commented on Jun 21 2011 12:44PM
    Sachin Nandanwar
    488 · 0% · 76
  • I would recommend you run the following and post back the result you see in the query output.

    select log_reuse_wait_desc 
    from sys.databases 
    where database_id = db_id()
    

    This will tell you why the TRN log cannot be truncated.

    commented on Jun 21 2011 12:44PM
    Jacob Sebastian
    1 · 100% · 32002
  • My next question is, is your production database in simple recovery model? My next question is what type of replication are you using? And how you could do transactional replication if the database is in simple recovery model? I am confused now!!! Instead of going to shrink it rightaway i would find out the cause of the growth of the log, it will grow again if the same issue exist, so better try to find out what is causing it to grow and can you tell me what type of replication is being setup there.

    Thanks, Abi

    commented on Jun 21 2011 12:45PM
    Abi Chapagai
    69 · 3% · 808
  • AbiChapagai,

    Transactional replication or any replication for that matter has nothing to do with type of recovery model.There is a myth that has been going around for some time that replication needs recovery model to be in full recovery mode which absolutely wrong.

    commented on Jun 21 2011 12:50PM
    Sachin Nandanwar
    488 · 0% · 76
  • 1.) We found the problem - Last Thursday there was a stored procedure caught in a loop with an update statement within the loop and wasn't caught until the next morning. Our backup failed the same night so I'm sure that is what caused the growth of the .ldf


    2.) The results to the script you provided" select logreusewaitdesc
    from sys.databases
    where database
    id = 5 --dbid() Output - ACTIVEBACKUPORRESTORE


    3.) Our database is in simple recovery model


    4.) Replication type is transactional


    5.) How you could do transactional replication if the database is in simple recovery model? I had a similar question - I'm still looking into this part


    commented on Jun 21 2011 1:19PM
    Doug
    84 · 2% · 647
  • Doug,

    Well the log reader agent reads the log files and selects the records which are marked for replication and replicates them over to the distributor database and changes the status of those records to replicated.It is a known fact that log writes are done even in simple recovery mode and are truncated on checkpoints.

    So until transaction replication does not replicates the records to the distributor DB the checkpoint wont include those records in the truncation process.So a replication as a whole is not dependent on any kind of recovery model.

    commented on Jun 21 2011 1:30PM
    Sachin Nandanwar
    488 · 0% · 76
  • 2.) The results to the script you provided"

    select logreusewaitdesc
    from sys.databases
    where databaseid = 5 --dbid()
    

    I ran it three time

    Output1 - ACTIVEBACKUPORRESTORE Output2- NOTHING Output3 - REPLICATION

    Is running the shrink script dependent on these results?

    commented on Jun 21 2011 1:49PM
    Doug
    84 · 2% · 647
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